As if abortion wasn’t bad enough already, U.S. doctors have discovered a new source of stem cells they think may be of some use. And all they have to do is create a specially made fetus and destroy it and Michael J. Fox will stop shaking. Ah, the future of medicine.
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  • From the article:

    “Researchers successfully extracted the cells from the fluid that fills the womb in pregnancy and then grew them in lab experiments.”

    When does amniotic fluid develop into a person, and why is this ‘abortion’ in your view?


  • IC, while I appreciate your attempt at witty sarcasm, I think you misunderstood this article. That, or you linked the wrong one.

    The whole “Michael J. Fox will stop shaking” thing was real cute, but he’s not the only person on the planet who’s going to be helped by adequate stem cell research. This research could be the key to help end the suffering of millions of humans of all ages, and not just the ones who are living today, but those who will be born in the future, as well.

    As a mother of two, I can tell you that my amniotic fluid served no purpose once I was in labor. So, rather than that fluid just going to waste all over the floor of the birthing room, what’s wrong with collecting it? The only problem that the article pointed out was that it would be difficult to orchestetrate the collection. Doctors and midwives PURPOSELY break the amniotic sac all the time–sometimes to bring on labor, sometimes because labor has progressed far enough that the water should be broken. It’s pretty cool, they use this crochet hook thing. If they’d have stuck a bowl under my ass we’d have been in the stem cell business right then and there. My daughter is alive and well right here in my lap, so I’m fairly certain there was no abortion involved in the loss of my amniotic fluid. So what exactly is your problem with this?

    Wait, I know! If we’re allowed to study amniotic fluid, the next thing you know women will be getting pregnant just for the experiments! Then we’ll have unwanted children running amok in our malls! Wait, we already have those…

    So what’s the problem, again? I’m guessing you had a knee-jerk reaction to the phrase “stem-cell” research and didn’t read the article. It’s ok. It happens to the best of us.


  • BH
    But this has created ethical concerns because the embryos are destroyed in the process
    I know not everyone agrees, but I believe that an embryo is a human life.

    Sis
    The types of stem cell with potentially the most use have so far been derived from specially grown human embryos
    That’s where my problem lies.


  • Sis,

    > It happens to the best of us.

    It didn’t happen to you.

    > …because the embryos are destroyed in the process

    IC, I think what happened here was that in comparing the amniotic harvest to the ESC approach, you thought the article was talking about the amniotic harvest.

    The people who published the article are (a) British, and (b) operating under the assumption that anyone who knows anything about reproduction would know that collecting amnio fluid does not harm the embryo or fetus or child.

    They assumed reader competency, which makes this bad journalism.

    Dr De Coppi it might be possible to take amniotic stem cells from a child diagnosed before birth with a problem, and use them to grow new tissue in the laboratory, which would be ready to use to treat the child when it was born.

    …and then, of course, kill the child.


  • IC, that part comes from the introductory paragraph which is NOT talking about new ways to get stem cells, but is a brief description of how stem cells were gotten in the past, THUS spurring the ethical debate. The rest of the article was about how to find other stem cells which do not raise the ethical concerns that the embryonic stem cell research does. Gathering amniotic stem cells doesn’t harm any life or life potential, unless you count the bacteria which could possibly grow on the fluid once it gushes onto the birth room floor. Have you read the whole article? I think specially growing human embryos is gross, too. But that’s not what the article is talking about…

    BH:

    >> It happens to the best of us.

    >It didn’t happen to you.

    That’s cause I aint the best… 😉


  • Chris,

    This procedure does not involve the killing of a fetus let alone an embryo. Why call it an abortion? If anything I would think you support this research since it offers science another way to grow stem cells without using an embryo.


  • Okay, I went back and re-read it and two things stuck out to me. The first one, and the one that if I’m reading it correctly still bothers me, is that they’re creating these embryos to test. Like I said, if I’m reading that correctly, that’s where my biggest problem lies. Because I’ve never heard of stem cells being taken today from specially grown embryos.

    Second, because of that, I think I may have been blinded to the rest of the article. I see now where they’re not destroyed.


  • >…they’re creating these embryos to test.

    Not as a result of the amniotic harvest of stem cells.

    It would be best if you just put an update in the post…

    “UPDATE:
    Looks like I misread the article and my post is in error.”


  • The line you are referring to is talking about embryonic stem cells (i.e. what has been done in the past). This new procedure neither creates embryos for testing nor does it destroy them. It uses stem cells extracted from the fluid which surrounds a developing fetus…hence the title of the article “New stem cell source discovered.” Please tell me what this has to do with abortion.


  • AND the caption under the photo is The cells came from the fluid surrounding the developing foetus. You goofed here, IC. It would be best if you just put an update in the post…

    “UPDATE:
    Looks like I misread the article and my post is in error.”

    Teach, can you please quote me saying I’m in favor of higher taxes?


  • Silke, as I stated, I was reading is as they were destroying fetuses, and that’s why I thought it was abortion. Thank you for pointing me in the right direction.


  • Chris,

    You are welcome:

    From the article:

    “Researchers successfully extracted the cells from the fluid that fills the womb in pregnancy and then grew them in lab experiments.”

    When does amniotic fluid develop into a person, and why is this ‘abortion’ in your view?

    It would be best if you just put an update in the post…

    “UPDATE:
    Looks like I misread the article and my post is in error.”

    Teach, can you please quote me saying I’m in favor of higher taxes?


  • Chris, the article has nothing to do with abortion. Please correct your post.

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